Thorens Historie - mehr als ein Jahrhundert Tonwiedergabe

Thorens

Jahr der Einfuhrung Modell Plattenspieler
1883 Musikdosen, Musikwerke
1906 Trichtergrammophone
1928 erster Direktantrieb
1929 erstes Magnetsystem
1943 bis 1954 CD 30 Wechsler
CD 50 beidseitige Abtastung
CD 43 Wechsler
CBA 83,CB33,E53PA
1957 TD 124 Tonarm BL104/BTD12S (1957-1965)
1958 TD 184 Tonarm BL104
1959 TD 134 Tonarm BL104 1959-1964
1961 TD 135 Tonarm BTD12S1961-1964
1962 TDW224 Wechsler Tonarm BTD12S
1965 TD 150 Tonarm TP13
1966 TD 124 II Tonarm TP 14
1966-1968
TD 135 II Tonarm TP 14
1966 TD 124 II Tonarm SME3012
1968 TD 125  1968-1971
1969 TD 150II Tonarm TP 13a
1972 TD125II/TP16 1972-1975
TD 160 / TD145/TP16, TD 165/TP11
1976 TD 126 / TP16
1976 TD 160MkII/145MkII / TP16II
(m.Endabschaltung)
1977 TD110, TD115(m.Endabschaltung)
1977-1982
1978 TD 104, TD105(m.Endabschaltung)
1978-1981
1978 TD 126III / TP16III
1978-1986
1979 Reference (limitiert auf 100)  
1981 TD 104 II, TD105II(m.Endabschaltung)
1981-1984
1982 TD 524 / TP16Spezial
  TD110 II, TD115II (m.Endabschaltung)
1982-1984
 
TD166II/TP11-2,TD160II/TP16-3
1983 100Jahre Thorens TD 147 Jubilee 
TD 126 Centennial / TP16-3, 
TD 127 (m.Endabschaltung)1983-1984
  TD 226 f.2 Tonarme, TD 160Super  
1983 Prestige
1984 TD 320
  TD 316 ohne
TD 318 mit Endabschaltung
1985 TD 520 mit TP16/IV L
TD280
1988 Concrete
1989 TD 2001
1990 TD 3001  
1991 TD 180  
  TD 318II
  TD 2001Isotrack
  Ambience, TD 295  
  TD 535
  TD318Mk4
1999 TD 325, TD 190  
2000 Das Ende  :-(
2001 Thorens Service wird neu organisiert :-)

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TD 124
TD 160mk1
TD 145mk2
 

Prestige
TD 104 / 105
TD 110 / 115

TD 126mk3
 

TD 160 Super / 147

TD 146/166mk2
TD 318
Phantasie
TD 280TD 280 IV
TD 520
TD 524
Concrete
TD 535
2001 RDC
TD 318mk4

 

Technical data
[the correctness of this information cannot be guaranteed]

Additional information on the classic suspended models : platter weight > 3 kg = metal subplatter, < 3 kg = plastic subplatter.
Additional information about Thorens tonearms under the table.

 

model

year

drive system

motor

speed switching mode

platter

suspension

tonearm

manual /
automatic

auto
shut-off

TD 104
TD 104 Mk II

1978
1980

belt

DC,
72-pole

33, 45;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

1,3 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

no

TP 22

manual

no

TD 105
TD 105 Mk II

1978
1981

belt

DC,
72-pole

33, 45;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

1,3 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

no

TP 22

semi automatic

yes

TD 110

1977

belt

DC,
72-pole

33, 45;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

1,3 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, "ortho-inertial"

TP 30

manual

no

TD 111

1962

belt, idler wheel

AC; 4-pole, induction
motor

33

no specs

no

no

manual

no

TD 115

1977

belt

DC,
72-pole

33, 45;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

1,3 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, “ortho-inertial"

TP 30

auto lift-off

yes

TD 115 Mk II

1982

belt

DC,
72-pole

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

1,3 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, "ortho-inertial"

TP 30

auto lift-off

yes

TD 121

1961

belt, idler wheel

AC; 4-pole, induction
motor

33

4,8 kg; Iron;
300 mm

no

BTD-12 S, Ortofon, SME

manual

no

TD 124

1957

belt, idler wheel

AC; 4-pole, induction
motor

16, 33, 45, 78;
pitch ±3%;
mech.

4,8 kg; Iron, Aluminium;
300 mm

no

BTD-12 S, Ortofon, SME

manual

no

TD 124 / II

1966

belt, idler wheel

AC; 4-pole, induction
motor

16, 33, 45, 78;
pitch ±3%;
mech.

4,5 kg, Iron or Zamak, Aluminium;
300 mm

no

TP 14, Ortofon, SME

manual

no

TD 125

1968

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

16, 33, 45;
pitch ±2%;
electr.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 14, SME

manual

no

TD 125 Mk II

1972

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

16, 33, 45;
pitch ±2%;
electr.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16, SME

manual

no

TD 126

1976

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16

auto lift-off, manual

yes

TD 126 Mk II

1976

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16 Mk II

auto lift-off, manual

yes

TD 126 Mk III

1977

belt

DC,
72-pole

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16 Mk III, EMT, SME

auto lift-off, manual

yes

TD 126 Mk IV

1977

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16 Mk III

auto lift-off, manual

yes

TD 127

1983

belt

DC,
72-pole

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

SME 3012

auto lift-off, manual

yes

TD 134

1959

belt, Idler wheel

AC; 4-pole, induction
motor

16, 33, 45, 78;
pitch ±3%;
mech.

Iron, Aluminium;
250 mm

no

BL 104

manual

no

TD 135

1961

belt, Idler wheel

AC; 4-pole, induction
motor

16, 33, 45, 78;
pitch ±3%;
mech.

2,9 kg; Iron, Aluminium;
300 mm

no

BTD-12 S

manual, motor stop

no

TD 135 / II

1965

belt, Idler wheel

AC; 4-pole, induction
motor

16, 33, 45, 78;
pitch ±3%;
mech.

2,9 kg; Iron, Aluminium;
300 mm

no

TP 14

manual, motor stop

no

TD 145

1975

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16

auto lift-off

yes

TD 145 Mk II

1976

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16 Mk II

auto lift-off

yes

TD 146

1982

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 21

auto lift-off

yes

TD 146 Mk II

1986

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 21

auto lift-off

yes

TD 146 Mk V

1988

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 28

auto lift-off

yes

TD 146 Mk VI

1992

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 50

auto lift-off

yes

TD 147

1982

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16 Mk III

auto lift-off

yes

TD 150

1965

belt

AC; synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

3,4 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 13, SME

manual

no

TD 150 Mk II

1969

belt

AC; synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

3,4 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 13a, SME

manual

no

TD 160

1972

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16

manual

no

TD 160 Mk II

1976

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16 Mk II / III

manual

no

TD 160 Mk IV

1987

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16 Mk IV

manual

no

TD 160 Mk V

1988

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 90

manual

no

TD 160 E

?

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16 Mk III

manual

yes

TD 160 Super

1983

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 16 Mk III, Rega, SME

manual

no

TD 165

1972

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 11

manual

no

TD 166

1975

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 11

manual

no

TD 166 Mk II

1976

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 21

manual

no

TD 166 Mk V

1988

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 50

manual

no

TD 166 Mk VI

1992

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

Rega RB 250

manual

no

TD 170 (original)

1965
?

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
mech.

3,4 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

TP 13,
TP 13a

manual

no

TD 170

1999

belt

DC, regulated

33, 45;
electr.

0,8 kg; Aluminium;
300 mm

no

no specs

full automatic

yes

TD 180

1991

belt

DC, regulated

33, 45, 78;
electr.

0,8 kg; Aluminium;
300 mm

no

TP 20

semi automatic

yes

TD 184

1958

belt, idler wheel

AC; 4-pole, induction
motor

16, 33, 45, 78;
pitch ±3%;
mech.

Iron, Aluminium;
250 mm

no

BL 104

full automatic

yes

TD 190

1991

belt

DC, regulated

33, 45, 78;
electr.

0,8 kg; Aluminium;
300 mm

no

TP 19

full automatic

yes

TDW 224

1962

belt, idler wheel

AC; 4-pole, induction
motor

16, 33, 45, 78;
pitch ±3%;
mech.

3,5 kg, Zamak;
300 mm

no

BTD-12 S

full automatic, changer

yes

TD 226

1983

belt

DC,
72-pole

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

3,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, spring

2x TP 16, Koshin, SME

auto lift-off, manual

yes

TD 280
TD 280 Mk II
TD 280 Exclusiv
TD 280 Mk III

1985
1986

1988
1991

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

1,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

no

TP 28

auto lift-off

yes

TD 280 Mk IV

1992

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

1,2 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

no

TP 35

auto lift-off

yes

TD 290

1992

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45
electr.

2,3 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

no

TP 40

no

yes

TD 290 Mk II

?

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45, 78;
electr.

2,3 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

no

TP 40

?

yes

TD 295 Mk II
TD 295 Mk III

1992
2002

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45, 78;
electr.

2,3 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

no

TP 40

auto lift-off

yes

TD 316

1985

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 21

manual

no

TD 316 Mk II

1988

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 28

manual

no

TD 318

1988

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 21

auto lift-off

yes

TD 318 Mk II

1992

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 28

auto lift-off

yes

TD 318 Mk III

1995

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

2,7 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 50

auto lift-off

yes

TD 320

1983
1986

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

3,1 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 16 Mk III
TP 16 Mk IV

auto lift-off

yes

TD 320 Mk II

1988

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

3,1 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 90

auto lift-off

yes

TD 320 Mk III

1992

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

3,1 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 90

auto lift-off

yes

TD 325

1999

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

 33, 45;
electr.

2,5 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

 yes, leaf spring

TP 90

auto lift-off

yes

TD 520
TD 520 Mk II

1985
?

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±12%;
electr.

3,1 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

SME 3012, SME 309,
TP 90 L

auto lift-off

yes

TD 524

1982

direct drive

DC,
256-pole, quartz PLL

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±25%;
electr.

330 mm

yes

TP 16 Spezial

auto lift-off, manual
remote control

yes

TD 535

1991

direct drive

DC, quartz PLL

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±15%;
electr.

2,5 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes

TP 90

manual, remote control

no

TD 738

1982

direct drive

DC,
256-pole, quartz PLL

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±25%;
electr.

330 mm

yes

TP 29 (EMT 929)

manual, remote control

no

TD 2001

1989

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

3,1 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 90

auto lift-off

yes

TD 3001

1990

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

3,3 kg; Zamak;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 90 S

manual

no

TD 800

2003

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

3,2 kg; Aluminium
300 mm

no

Rega RB 250

manual

no

TD 810

2003

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

4,3 kg; Aluminium
300 mm

no

Rega RB 250

manual

no

TD 850

2003

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

4,5 kg; Aluminium
300 mm

no

Rega RB 300

manual

no

Ambiance

1991

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

2,5 kg; acrylic; 300 mm

yes, leaf spring

SME 309 GP

manual

no

Concrete

1988

belt

AC; 24-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

2,9 kg;
300 mm

yes, leaf spring

SME 309

manual

no

Phantasie

1984

belt

AC; 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45;
electr.

3,1 kg; Zamak; 300 mm

yes, leaf spring

TP 16 Mk IV

auto lift-off

yes

Prestige

1983

belt

AC, 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

8,1 kg; Aluminium
340 mm

yes, spring

2x, various

manual

no

Reference

1980

belt

AC, 16-pole, synchronous

33, 45, 78;
pitch ±6%;
electr.

6,6 kg
303 mm

yes, spring

3x, various

manual

no

Thorens tonearm information :

TP 11 - headshell TP 60, eff. mass 16.5 grams, eff. length 230 mm, mounting dist. 215.6 mm, overhang 14.4 mm, offset angle 22 degrees
TP 11 II - armwand TP 62, mass 7.5, length 230, mount. 215.6, overh. 14.4, offset 22
TP 11 III - armwand TP 63, mass 7.5, length 232, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset 23
TP 16 - hs TP 60, mass 16.5, length 230, mount. 215.6, overh. 14.4, offset 22
TP 16 II - armwand TP 62, mass 7.5, length 230, mount. 215.6, overh. 14.4, offset  22
TP 61 III - armwand TP 63, mass 7.5, length 232, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset 23
TP 16 IV - hs TP 68, mass 12.5, length 232, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset  23
TP 16 L - hs TP 68, mass 14, length 247.7, mount. 230, overh. 17.7, offset 23
TP 21 - armwands TP 62 and TP 63, mass 7.5, length 232 mm, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset 23
TP 21 IV - hs TP 68, mass 12.5, length 232, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset  23
TP 22 - armwands TP 62 / TP 63, mass 7.5, length 222, mount.206.5, overh. 15.5, offset 22
TP 28 - hs TP 68, mass 12.5, length 232, mount. 215.6, overh. 16.4, offset 23
TP 30 - armwand TP 70, mass 7.5, length 222, mount.206.5, overh. 15.5, offset 23
TP 35 - hs TP 55, mass 15, length 212, mount.--, overh. 16, offset 24
TP 40 - hs TP 55, mass 15.5, length 232, mount.--, overh. 16.4, offset 24
TP 50 - hs TP 55, mass 14, length 228, mount.--, overh. 18, offset 24
TP 90 - hs TP 95, mass 17, length 228, mount.210, overh. 18, offset 24
TP 90 L - hs TP 96, mass 20, length 272.5, mount.257.5, overh. 15, offset  20

For the TP 11 II / III, TP 16 II / III and TP 21 were also available :
TMC 63 (armwand with integrated EMT mc-cartridge, best used with the dedicated PPA 990 prepre)
TPO 63 (armwand with integrated Ortofon ultra low mass mm-cartridge, eff. mass just 4.5 grams).

The TMC 63 could be used with the TP 22 theoretically, but arm and turntable (TD 104/105) cannot match the quality of the cartridge.
The TPO 63 cannot be used with the TD 104 / 105 because the counterweight of the TP 22 is too heavy (the lightweight counterweight that comes with the TPO 63 does not fit on the TP 22).

For the TP 30 (TD 110 / 115) were also available :
TMC 70
TPO 70
(see descriptions above).

Holger Trass 2003

 



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